Comments on: Quick idea for a revamped HIG http://lucasr.org/2007/07/20/quick-idea-for-a-revamped-hig/ Lucas Rocha Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:12:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Marco http://lucasr.org/2007/07/20/quick-idea-for-a-revamped-hig/comment-page-1/#comment-458 Marco Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:25:26 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/lucasr/2007/07/20/quick-idea-for-a-revamped-hig/#comment-458 @Alex: I don't think casual reviewers that know about the wiki are really helpful. Because they don't represent the real normal user and they will never be able to guess what are all the general users difficulties. A person that is looking at UI's wiki is already a step beyond. *Improving the UI is not like filling bug report* amd it's not like solving a problem. *Improving the UI is: empathize with users*. To empathize you need to see, test and talk with a large number of people, people that come from different experiences (not only hackers or geeks). Because for example if in a wiki 12 people say that one thing is ok or they suggest to improve something. How do you know which part of the population they rappresent? Maybe only the 3%. @Alex:
I don’t think casual reviewers that know about the wiki are really helpful. Because they don’t represent the real normal user and they will never be able to guess what are all the general users difficulties. A person that is looking at UI’s wiki is already a step beyond.
*Improving the UI is not like filling bug report* amd it’s not like solving a problem. *Improving the UI is: empathize with users*.
To empathize you need to see, test and talk with a large number of people, people that come from different experiences (not only hackers or geeks).
Because for example if in a wiki 12 people say that one thing is ok or they suggest to improve something. How do you know which part of the population they rappresent? Maybe only the 3%.

]]> By: Alex Graveley http://lucasr.org/2007/07/20/quick-idea-for-a-revamped-hig/comment-page-1/#comment-457 Alex Graveley Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:12:13 +0000 http://blogs.gnome.org/lucasr/2007/07/20/quick-idea-for-a-revamped-hig/#comment-457 I love this idea, but I wonder if we could turn it into a kind of UI/HIG Wikipedia? It would be really useful to collect UI from all over the world. not just GNOME, but MS apps, Amiga, the Web, KDE, even physical devices. Pictures of these could be posted to the site, with a simple explanation of where they had come from, and what they manipulate. People could comment on them, and add more detailed descriptions of each element's behavior. If originating from a HIG, the HIG description could inserted directly. Each entry could be tagged and categorized as you mention. It would allow for new proposals for UI from all platforms to be discussed in the context of all existing UIs, with rich linking. This would be really valuable, I think... Designers and engineers post links for UI-in-progress all the time, and people review them by looking at other UI they can think of that's similar. We look to see if the changes/improvements warrant something new, or if platform HIGs are being violated. I love this idea, but I wonder if we could turn it into a kind of UI/HIG Wikipedia? It would be really useful to collect UI from all over the world. not just GNOME, but MS apps, Amiga, the Web, KDE, even physical devices.

Pictures of these could be posted to the site, with a simple explanation of where they had come from, and what they manipulate. People could comment on them, and add more detailed descriptions of each element’s behavior. If originating from a HIG, the HIG description could inserted directly. Each entry could be tagged and categorized as you mention.

It would allow for new proposals for UI from all platforms to be discussed in the context of all existing UIs, with rich linking. This would be really valuable, I think…

Designers and engineers post links for UI-in-progress all the time, and people review them by looking at other UI they can think of that’s similar. We look to see if the changes/improvements warrant something new, or if platform HIGs are being violated.

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